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Hello, everyone, everywhere.

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Pastor Robert Thibodeau here.

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Welcome to the Revelation Warning podcast.

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We are so blessed that you're joining us here today.

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You know, our guest today is Scott Wright.

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He's back again where we have been referencing his email campaign.

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If you've listened to the past couple episodes we talked about, you know, how do we contact Scott?

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ail is gcc Godsetter Concepts: 2038

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Oh, I looked this up.

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I believe it was episodes: 1354

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We talked about what the: 2038

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As we concluded our prior interview, our previous interview to this, we said, you know, we haven't talked about this in a while.

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Let's talk about it again.

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So that's what we're going to talk about today.

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What significance does: 2038

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And with all that being said, help me welcome back to the program our good friend, Scott Rice.

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Scott, it's a blessing to have you back again, buddy.

Scott Rice: 00:01:47

Hey, great to be back and look forward to some more fun and fruitful discussion here.

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Hey, man, can you believe that this is 300 episodes ago?

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We talked about it.

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Wow.

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I mean, it's like, wow, where did the time go?

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It feels like we just started a month ago.

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Yeah, it was like a couple years ago, you know.

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So anyway, that's what we're going to talk about today.

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the significance of the year: 2038

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Well, to understand that, we have to understand the seven ages of the church, which is kind of the area that I've done immense research in which we've discussed.

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And, you know, partly I've been a.

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I've been a history teacher and I also like to research history as well as the fact that I'm a biblical, you know, I'm a biblical scholar as well.

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So I dive into biblical teaching and in particular, in this particular instance, it's.

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I've been looking at the end times through a different lens than most people look at it.

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I've been looking at it through the past and not the future because I've been wanting to look at these seven ages of the church.

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And I was really led to do that.

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And so it was funny in all the digging that I, that I did, what I started to find was patterns emerging.

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If we really broke it down and looked at history in a, and I looked at it in a different way.

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And so here's what, here's what you have to do before we.

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I want to explain the methodology because I think that'll help people understand this.

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When we look through the history, through the lens of saying in church history, just in a vacuum, without all the other pieces, then we miss what God is doing.

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Because God is not just involved in church history.

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He's involved in all the history.

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All of this is his.

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We have to think of the whole world, all the history, everything.

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It's all his.

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It all belongs to him, not just the church history.

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And I think the mindset that we have to be very careful of as Christ believers is getting caught up in that.

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God's only focus is the church just in that small area and we get tunnel visioned.

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God wants everything.

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He wants it all.

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He doesn't just want the church to be inside your building.

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He wants everybody to become believers and everybody to follow him.

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That's what he wants.

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He wants the whole world to worship him.

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And eventually it will, whether you're forced to or, or you do it willingly, you know, so we know that Philippians chapter 2.

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Every knee will bow and every tongue will confess.

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But here's the thing.

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If we look at, through the eyes and the lens of looking at history in its total form, the totality of it in that age, from the time that Christ entered his ministry to the time of now, and then looking forward a little bit, we see these patterns emerge in the ages of the church.

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So really what it is, it's the age of the Gentile.

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It truly is.

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This is the age of the Gentile.

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And so it, and that's what Revelation chapter two and three are.

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They're the age of the Gentile.

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The Gentile has about a: 2000

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And this is what it's all about.

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Who's carrying the message of the Gospel?

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Who's carrying the message of reconciliation to God Because Israelites did it through the temple, right?

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I mean, the Day of Atonement.

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I just want to bring out here that, you know, some people will be thinking, oh, the Gentiles, that's, that's all the unbelievers at the end of the age.

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No, no, no, no, no.

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Gentile is simply non Jewish people.

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That's Us, you know, and, and I have a little bit of heritage of Jewish and not, you know, and I'm mainly Gentile, but I've got a little Jewish heritage myself.

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So in, in one of my lines.

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But here's the thing, what we got to realize is this, is that we are in an age right now where the age of the Gentile is going to start coming to an end.

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We're there.

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Amen.

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And this, there's seven, eight.

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Instead of thinking of it as seven ages of the church, thinking of seven ages of the Gentile.

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That's the way to think of this.

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And that means it starts.

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If we think of it that way, it starts with the Acts 10 vision of Peter.

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If we think of it as a church, then we go back and it's either going to start with Jesus declaring Peter with the church.

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What that was.

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And see, what I believe at that moment is Jesus was foreshadowing the Acts 10 vision.

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That's what he was doing.

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He wasn't establishing the church at that moment in that way with the Gentile, he was telling Peter he would be the one that would start this thing, that he would kickstart it.

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And he did.

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The Acts 10 vision is it.

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And that is the start of the age of the Gentile.

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And that's.

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I love Acts: 10:38

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I've done so many sermons just on that one.

Scott Rice: 00:07:12

Yes, that is.

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I think we've talked about that on a couple of episodes.

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Yeah, it's a powerful verse.

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It is.

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And so that's the starting point.

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Well, so when does that start?

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If we go back into, dig into the history of that, it starts sometime in the 30s and all the way up to about 40.

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And you know, the dating back then it would have been harder to date because they didn't record things like they do now.

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Like we're pinpoint accurate with every, you know, we're very scientific, very technically on point.

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It wouldn't have been done like that.

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They didn't record things like that.

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Okay.

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It was done orally, a lot of it, and then recorded.

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And it'd be stuff like, you know, when so and so was king here and so.

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And so was king there prior to the invasion of this.

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So.

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So it gives you this like three or four year window or something like that, you know.

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Exactly.

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And that's what this is.

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So this would have happened from the mid to the late 30s, maybe around 5, around 40.

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So I always say from 35 to 40 that's when the Acts 10 vision most likely happened.

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And there's arguments by scholars.

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I'm not going to be one of those that says it was exactly in 38.

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Okay.

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I'm just going to say it happened in that window.

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And so that was the start right there, the age of the Gentile.

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Because what it was, it was a, it was a, the start of the shift of the message of reconciliation to God from Jew to Gentile.

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Not only had they done that through the way that the temple is with the whole process, the 10 day process that they get to Rashakana and I probably butchered the name and then I can promise you I don't pronounce that well and I need to practice it.

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But you get to the day of atonement.

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That was the reconciliation.

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They did that every year.

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Okay.

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That was an every year thing.

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It happens in the fall.

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It's usually in September, sometimes in October.

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Okay.

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So we know this.

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In looking at the Jewish calendar, what happened was, is when Jesus died, the veil of the temple was torn in two.

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And he said, I've taken the message of reconciliation and put it on myself.

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That's what he did when he died.

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And that veil tore in two in that temple that ended it.

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Okay.

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So now there's this transition period where the first, the, the first message from that point is going to be him appearing to the apostles after the resurrection.

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Then he's going to ascend.

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Then the apostles are going to start talking in Jerusalem.

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They're starting with the Jews, but very few Jews believe them.

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Matter of fact, they think they're crazy.

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Yep.

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And they start to punish them and torture them and all that.

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So they have to flee.

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And then eventually Peter has the Acts 10 vision and that is the start.

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And they start spreading the gospel.

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All right.

Scott Rice: 00:10:16

Of course, Paul becomes the big player in this eventually and his, his mission, he's going to take it further and wider than anybody else.

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I always equate the Great Awakening to that because Jonathan Edwards was kind of the guy with the sermon, all that.

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But George Whitefield takes it further than more than anybody.

Scott Rice: 00:10:34

Okay, so just kind of give you a little historical referencing and a comparison there.

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But what happens is, because we start in 38.

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Well, so when does the first age of that gentile end?

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Well, it's going to end between 30, 136 and 138.

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I know, like literally right at 100 years.

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And some people think it happens around a 100.

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There's scholars that says, whoa, whoa, whoa.

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If you look at it through the lens, I'm giving it to you that I'm explaining it ends at that point because that's when the last Jewish rebellion is put down by the Emperor Hadrian.

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And the Jews are now scattered and now they have.

Scott Rice: 00:11:12

No, not that they couldn't individually receive Jesus.

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Okay?

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Remember that.

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They could still individually, there were messianic Jews.

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Okay?

Scott Rice: 00:11:21

Not saying that, but I'm saying as a group, as a whole, they were no longer carrying the message of reconciliation.

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Yeah.

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It had been completely shifted.

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That's the first stage of the Gentile is that shift.

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And the Emperor Hadrian will die in 138 and now a new emperor will come in and there's a whole reset.

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And then what we're going to do is we're going to go through 200 years of this toxi turvy.

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The Church is kind of like the Wild west.

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Okay?

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It is, I mean, heresies.

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You talk about schisms and all this stuff and then there's periods of persecution.

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A lot of people think the whole time period was persecution.

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That is absolutely not true.

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It's periods of it.

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Some of it pushes people out of the Roman Empire and them scattering and it kind of calms Christianity down, almost quieten it.

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But then there also happens to be a few persecutions that don't.

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Amen.

Scott Rice: 00:12:25

And from those, Christianity spreads throughout the Roman Empire and it grows and grows and grows.

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Finally, we'll get what's called the Edict of tolerance in 260.

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See, most people think all this starts with Edict of Milan, and it does not.

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In 260 we have the Edict of Tolerance.

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The Edict of Milan will follow it in three, in around 317, at 3:15, 3:17.

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Right there with Constantine, who quite frankly wasn't a great guy himself.

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I mean, he saw the vision of the cross and the battle and all that.

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And you know, we, we know all that stuff.

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But the real moment, remember you and I talked about this, is when Constantine is baptized.

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And we talked about how monumental that would have been.

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Because of God.

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Exactly.

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We had an emperor considered a God who says, no, I have to be baptized to receive salvation from the Lord.

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And he wanted to do that right before he died so all his sins would be absolved.

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That's why he waited until that moment that happens in 337.

Scott Rice: 00:13:29

Okay, so now we see a pattern emerge.

Scott Rice: 00:13:32

We're going literally.

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It's like, it's almost literally on these hundreds.

Scott Rice: 00:13:37

Yeah, on these hundred to 200 year cycles.

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So we've got 100 year of the first age, 200, 200 years of the second age.

Scott Rice: 00:13:43

All right, now the edict of Tolerance and the edict of Milan would have been okay.

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What they have been is kind of little sparks, kind of driving forces that get us to the moment.

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And the moment is the baptism.

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Then the next one is the fall.

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Of course, Rome will fall to the Visigoths around 410.

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But what will happen is the Byzantine army will retake Rome.

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And get this, they lay it under siege in 537 and they take it in 538.

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And that would have been the shift of the next stage of the Church.

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And what it is, is it established the power of the papal state.

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The Church now is in control.

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It had been established.

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We had the New Testament.

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We can talk about Athanasius all day.

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He's a major player in all this and the Desert Fathers and all that stuff, but we don't have that kind of time.

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So when is the next shift?

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Well, we're going to have the first spark.

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Here's.

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This is interesting.

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teens to the early: 1320

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en we're going to have in the: 1340

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That's going to weaken everything.

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And what's going to happen is we're going to see all these events happen.

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That's going to be a complete paradigm shift in life over about 100 years.

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I mean, that's just what's going to happen.

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And in that time, in: 1436

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And in: 1438

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1438, I always find that interesting.

Scott Rice: 00:15:29

And I believe that was the first spark.

Scott Rice: 00:15:31

the fall of Constantinople in: 1453

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And then the next spark is going to be Martin Luther.

Scott Rice: 00:15:44

But the other spark that's built in the middle of there, that's kind of a spark is Christopher Columbus making America public.

Scott Rice: 00:15:51

Other people, there were some people that knew it was there at the time.

Scott Rice: 00:15:54

Oh, yeah, but it just wasn't known.

Scott Rice: 00:15:57

And now all of a sudden it made it a public thing.

Scott Rice: 00:15:59

, right, in that: 1517

Scott Rice: 00:16:08

A lot of people think that that age of the Church, that's the switching of the age of church.

Scott Rice: 00:16:12

And I'm like, well, we got to look at this differently.

Scott Rice: 00:16:16

It's the power.

Scott Rice: 00:16:17

Who would be the power behind all this?

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To carry the message.

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When does the message shift to somebody else?

Scott Rice: 00:16:24

That does not happen with Martin Luther.

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He's not the one that does that, but he sparks what will help lead to the people who will.

Scott Rice: 00:16:32

And it's.

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And it's the British.

Scott Rice: 00:16:35

It's the power of England, guys.

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England is the most dominant empire in the history of the world.

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And they will form the Anglican church.

Scott Rice: 00:16:43

In the: 1530

Scott Rice: 00:16:48

Guess when he is excommunicated for the second and final time, that really kind of establishes this to be cemented.

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Cements this.

Scott Rice: 00:16:58

1538, of course.

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Of course.

Scott Rice: 00:17:02

I'm like, okay, now I'm.

Scott Rice: 00:17:04

You know, it's kind of like you waking up.

Scott Rice: 00:17:06

And now King Henry VIII has done this.

Scott Rice: 00:17:08

Now we know the backlash and the Counter Reformation and that England would try to revert back to Catholicism under, you know, other rule after he died.

Scott Rice: 00:17:18

And then it'd come back.

Scott Rice: 00:17:19

But the Anglican Church becomes established.

Scott Rice: 00:17:22

Here's the thing.

Scott Rice: 00:17:23

What you have to realize is Britain started colonizing.

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And when they did, they took the Anglican Church all over the world and they're.

Scott Rice: 00:17:30

And they would have missionaries go in there and establish Christianity.

Scott Rice: 00:17:35

And it happened across the globe.

Scott Rice: 00:17:37

The sun never sets on the British Empire.

Scott Rice: 00:17:39

The Anglican Church gets well established and they spread the gospel now, sometimes by force, but it happens.

Scott Rice: 00:17:47

Okay, that's the fifth age of the church.

Scott Rice: 00:17:49

It's also known as the dead church.

Scott Rice: 00:17:51

And there's some reasons for that.

Scott Rice: 00:17:54

The sixth age of the church.

Scott Rice: 00:17:56

So there was this thing called the Great Awakening.

Scott Rice: 00:18:00

The Great Awakening will start.

Scott Rice: 00:18:02

Will really spark and start and go on this meeting, this prayer meeting, they call it the prayer meeting that saved England.

Scott Rice: 00:18:10

And it's by the Federal Lane Society.

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60 men fasting and praying in a room.

Scott Rice: 00:18:15

And guess when that happens.

Scott Rice: 00:18:16

,: 1738

Scott Rice: 00:18:20

In 1-1-39, of course, you know, this is when it would happen.

Scott Rice: 00:18:25

And so that starts the sixth age of the church.

Scott Rice: 00:18:27

Now, they had tried to start spreading stuff before that, but not with a lot of success.

Scott Rice: 00:18:33

But after that meeting, they.

Scott Rice: 00:18:35

There's a.

Scott Rice: 00:18:36

One of the Wesleyan brothers in his diary has and talks about it was like a Acts 2 moment, a Pentecostal moment that happened in that meeting that night.

Scott Rice: 00:18:46

ike the spark starts and like: 1730

Scott Rice: 00:18:58

And so it also helps not only quail and kind of contain a revolution that was breaking out in England, kind of like what had happened in the French Revolution, kind of stops that.

Scott Rice: 00:19:09

But it also spreads into the colonies.

Speaker D: 00:19:13

Yep.

Scott Rice: 00:19:14

And the colonies will be transformed.

Scott Rice: 00:19:17

And George Whitefield, the Wesleyan brothers, you know, you got Jonathan Edwards, all these names.

Scott Rice: 00:19:23

The colonies will, I mean, take off in a spiritual revival that was almost unprecedented at the front at that time.

Scott Rice: 00:19:32

We hadn't seen anything like that in a long time.

Scott Rice: 00:19:34

And so that'll happen and then you'll get all these schisms eventually in churches and you know, the Anabaptist and all this stuff.

Scott Rice: 00:19:43

And I don't want to get too deep into that.

Scott Rice: 00:19:46

So the question becomes that's the six ages of the church.

Scott Rice: 00:19:50

But in the.

Scott Rice: 00:19:50

In Revelation, chapter three, where it talks about the six stage of the church, the church of Philadelphia, it also says it's short.

Scott Rice: 00:20:00

Well, guess What?

Scott Rice: 00:20:00

It lasts 100 years.

Scott Rice: 00:20:03

Here's what happened.

Scott Rice: 00:20:04

If you look at history on a total scale and you look at it in its totality and not just church.

Scott Rice: 00:20:12

When does life change into the modern era?

Scott Rice: 00:20:15

The total modern era?

Scott Rice: 00:20:17

Guess when.

Scott Rice: 00:20:18

The: 1830

Scott Rice: 00:20:20

It's the: 1830

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l become a major thing in the: 1830

Scott Rice: 00:20:26

Not that it already hadn't been invented.

Scott Rice: 00:20:28

But it explodes in the: 1830

Scott Rice: 00:20:34

Not only that, the telegraph, okay.

Scott Rice: 00:20:40

The steamships start making their first voyages.

Scott Rice: 00:20:44

Mass communication and mass transportation lead to all the other mass stuff that eventually will happen.

Scott Rice: 00:20:52

And life completely changes.

Scott Rice: 00:20:54

We can travel to and frozen faster than that people have ever been able to.

Scott Rice: 00:20:59

Six month trips are cut down to less than a week.

Scott Rice: 00:21:03

Yeah, I mean it just.

Scott Rice: 00:21:05

You can now get messages almost instantaneously and that had never happened.

Scott Rice: 00:21:11

All of a sudden life just changes.

Scott Rice: 00:21:16

And then also what happens is Queen Victoria comes to the throne in England and she does something that's very different than what had ever been done before.

Scott Rice: 00:21:26

She becomes the voice of the people.

Scott Rice: 00:21:28

Her and her husband will become the voice of the people in England.

Scott Rice: 00:21:34

A monarch had not done that they'd always ruled over and instead they become the voice of the people.

Scott Rice: 00:21:41

And it leads us into the Church of Laodicea.

Scott Rice: 00:21:43

Guess when she's coronated.

Scott Rice: 00:21:45

1838, of course, of the biggest, most powerful nation on earth.

Scott Rice: 00:21:50

And now we have a queen who becomes the voice of the people, a more empathetic voice.

Scott Rice: 00:21:57

And that those reforms will take time.

Scott Rice: 00:21:58

I mean they don't, but that's where it starts.

Scott Rice: 00:22:01

But these: 1830

Scott Rice: 00:22:02

Procter and Gamble, when did they form?

Scott Rice: 00:22:05

1830s.

Scott Rice: 00:22:06

First consumer product company.

Scott Rice: 00:22:07

They're like the largest consumer product company in the world right now.

Scott Rice: 00:22:11

So, I mean, it's just, you know, the thing of the masses, and here's what it is, is the individual gets to start living a life of royalty, of what royalty had always lived.

Scott Rice: 00:22:21

That's what happens.

Scott Rice: 00:22:22

And we get the Church of Laodicea, and it's really the age of opulence.

Scott Rice: 00:22:27

And we've been living under it, under since.

Scott Rice: 00:22:29

s, okay, that puts us into the: 2030

Scott Rice: 00:22:35

Now you think, okay, so you've got a number, but what other evidence is there?

Scott Rice: 00:22:42

And you can't just go on based on prophetic whims that you think you're hearing from the Holy Spirit.

Scott Rice: 00:22:48

You also, the Holy Spirit will move.

Scott Rice: 00:22:50

But there's always evidence with it, too.

Scott Rice: 00:22:52

I always believe, like if you go in the Old Testament, when God would talk to the prophets, there was plenty of other evidence around, like fire.

Scott Rice: 00:23:01

They just weren't paying attention.

Scott Rice: 00:23:02

Yeah.

Scott Rice: 00:23:03

So people don't pay attention to evidence.

Scott Rice: 00:23:05

That's right.

Scott Rice: 00:23:06

So the prophets have to start speaking so they'll pay attention to the evidence.

Scott Rice: 00:23:08

I mean, that's what God.

Scott Rice: 00:23:09

That's how God is.

Scott Rice: 00:23:10

He's not just.

Scott Rice: 00:23:11

He's not just going to say something on a whim to punish you because it's something that just happened a moment ago.

Scott Rice: 00:23:19

But here's what happened.

Scott Wright: 00:23:20

I like the story of Isaiah.

Scott Wright: 00:23:21

You know, when they call fire down from him, Bible says, everybody hit the deck.

Scott Wright: 00:23:26

He's Lord, he's God.

Scott Rice: 00:23:30

You know, I mean, and exactly.

Scott Rice: 00:23:33

I mean, so here's here's what, here's what's happening.

Scott Rice: 00:23:38

of evidence pointing that the: 2000

Scott Rice: 00:23:45

There's going to be.

Scott Rice: 00:23:47

The church is going to wash away.

Scott Rice: 00:23:48

First of all, the people are leaving the churches in droves.

Scott Rice: 00:23:52

They are.

Scott Rice: 00:23:53

And abandoning the faith.

Scott Rice: 00:23:54

And I personally know people that have done this and I know all of you probably do.

Scott Rice: 00:24:01

Number two, I don't think, like I said, I think you can look around and know that things are changing rapidly.

Scott Rice: 00:24:09

So.

Scott Rice: 00:24:09

But not so much that it's just changing tomorrow.

Scott Rice: 00:24:13

So there still needs to be a little bit of time.

Scott Rice: 00:24:16

So that makes sense that the: 2030

Scott Rice: 00:24:19

Would make sense to all this.

Scott Rice: 00:24:22

And the last thing is.

Scott Rice: 00:24:23

And.

Scott Rice: 00:24:23

And there's some other things here.

Scott Rice: 00:24:25

So Dubai, okay, uae, who we've talked about being Babylon the Great.

Scott Rice: 00:24:32

If you compare.

Scott Rice: 00:24:34

The best comparison of Dubai is to Las Vegas.

Scott Rice: 00:24:37

It is.

Scott Rice: 00:24:38

Las Vegas is the, the: 1984

Scott Rice: 00:24:45

As far as entertainment and the way that it is, I mean, it is.

Scott Rice: 00:24:49

I've talked to people, been to both, and they're like, they don't even want to go back to Vegas anymore.

Scott Rice: 00:24:53

And.

Scott Wright: 00:24:54

And think about it.

Scott Wright: 00:24:55

You know, Vegas started just a little desert town, nothing there.

Scott Rice: 00:25:00

Exactly.

Scott Rice: 00:25:01

And guess what?

Scott Wright: 00:25:02

That's the same thing with Dubai.

Scott Rice: 00:25:04

Exactly.

Scott Rice: 00:25:04

Go look at maps, go look at Pictures of Dubai 50 years ago.

Speaker D: 00:25:09

Yeah.

Scott Rice: 00:25:09

And now look at it now.

Scott Rice: 00:25:10

It's one of the top 10 seaports.

Scott Rice: 00:25:12

It's.

Scott Rice: 00:25:14

It's a Vegas style on hyper steroids is what it is.

Scott Rice: 00:25:20

And so here's what we have to.

Scott Rice: 00:25:22

We have to see.

Scott Rice: 00:25:23

So there's Babylon the Great.

Scott Rice: 00:25:24

They have a plan by: 2040

Scott Rice: 00:25:27

zed and best city on Earth by: 2040

Scott Rice: 00:25:35

Okay, so now we start.

Scott Rice: 00:25:38

Now things are starting to progress.

Scott Rice: 00:25:39

red to the whole world before: 2040

Scott Rice: 00:25:49

There's literally projects to make that happen.

Scott Rice: 00:25:55

So now you're thinking, okay, so we have this projects.

Scott Rice: 00:25:58

We've got Dubai.

Scott Rice: 00:26:00

We're seeing AI technology take off, we're seeing electronic money take off.

Scott Rice: 00:26:07

All this stuff is happening, starting to happen.

Scott Rice: 00:26:10

And, you know, it takes a little bit to get the wheels spinning.

Scott Rice: 00:26:13

And what I believe is that the spark to some of this, to get all this stuff going, believe it or not, was Covid.

Speaker D: 00:26:23

Yeah, absolutely.

Scott Rice: 00:26:25

Because it gave.

Scott Rice: 00:26:26

It gave governments the power to shut things down and to transition things.

Scott Rice: 00:26:32

And I hate to say this, it weakened the church.

Scott Rice: 00:26:35

Yep, it did.

Scott Rice: 00:26:37

And it hasn't totally recovered because normally.

Scott Wright: 00:26:41

During times of disasters and things like that, the church steps in to try and bring order.

Scott Wright: 00:26:49

They, you know, they provide, you know, food resources, you know, counseling and all that.

Scott Wright: 00:26:55

Covid, they shut the churches out and said, come to the government for everything you need.

Scott Rice: 00:27:01

Yep, exactly.

Scott Rice: 00:27:03

It wasn't a mixed bag.

Scott Rice: 00:27:04

It was complete.

Scott Rice: 00:27:06

And it was the first time we'd ever seen that happen.

Speaker D: 00:27:09

Yep.

Scott Rice: 00:27:10

And so I think if we're looking at all the evidence and then we're looking at everything as things are coming, coming into play.

Scott Rice: 00:27:20

2038.

Scott Rice: 00:27:21

ll, what's going to happen in: 2038

Scott Rice: 00:27:27

You know, it's like, is that when the church is going to be raptured?

Scott Rice: 00:27:29

I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, we're not talking about raptures here.

Scott Rice: 00:27:33

I.

Scott Rice: 00:27:33

Nobody knows that, okay?

Scott Rice: 00:27:35

Nobody can tell you about the Rapture, Okay.

Scott Rice: 00:27:37

All they know is we Can.

Scott Rice: 00:27:39

Jesus didn't even know exactly.

Scott Rice: 00:27:41

He didn't even know the time and the date.

Scott Rice: 00:27:43

That has nothing to do with the rapture.

Scott Rice: 00:27:44

The age of the church could end and there not be a rapture for a while.

Scott Rice: 00:27:48

It could happen that way.

Scott Rice: 00:27:50

I know a lot of people don't want to believe that, but it could.

Scott Rice: 00:27:55

And it could be done in a lot of different ways.

Scott Rice: 00:27:58

So we can't, you know, we can't do that.

Scott Rice: 00:28:00

What I'm saying is, is we're seeing the ending of an era, and it's coming.

Scott Rice: 00:28:05

I do believe, and I'm not the only person believes this.

Scott Rice: 00:28:09

There's a lot of people that believe.

Scott Rice: 00:28:10

There's people that believe this, that there's a great revival on the horizon.

Scott Rice: 00:28:13

First, there'll be a great small.

Scott Rice: 00:28:17

It'll be quick, but it'll happen.

Scott Rice: 00:28:19

It'll almost be like the Jesus revolution of the late 60s and early 70s, of course, culminated in an explode.

Scott Wright: 00:28:26

Let me flip back to Isaiah for a second.

Scott Wright: 00:28:28

You know, after the biggest demonstration of power, you know, everyone say, oh, Jehovah, he is God.

Scott Wright: 00:28:34

He is God, right?

Scott Wright: 00:28:36

And then, you know, big revival wiped out all the prophets.

Scott Wright: 00:28:40

And then what happens?

Scott Wright: 00:28:41

Jezebel says, you're next.

Scott Wright: 00:28:44

I'm gonna get you for this.

Scott Wright: 00:28:46

He runs away, you know, I mean, I, I, I.

Scott Wright: 00:28:50

That's what I preach on this.

Scott Wright: 00:28:51

I like, you know, Isaiah, you know, if it been me, I just had this big battle and stuff.

Scott Wright: 00:28:57

He was like, you want some of this too, girl?

Scott Wright: 00:28:59

Come on, let's go instead.

Scott Wright: 00:29:02

And she was so scared of him, she sent a guard to tell him, you know, with a letter, you know, I mean, you know, it seems to me like Isaiah, he'd been on fire, say, hey, you want some of me too?

Scott Wright: 00:29:14

Come on, baby, let's do this, you know.

Scott Wright: 00:29:17

But instead he's like, I'm out of here.

Scott Wright: 00:29:21

And that's what's gonna happen.

Scott Wright: 00:29:22

The church is gonna have this huge revival, and the powers that be in place at that time are going to shut it down.

Scott Wright: 00:29:31

And the church is going to go away.

Scott Rice: 00:29:32

Yep, I think it's going to happen.

Scott Rice: 00:29:35

I, I think it's going to be something like that.

Scott Rice: 00:29:37

You'll have it happen.

Scott Rice: 00:29:38

They won't be able to shut it down the middle of it because there'll be too many people involved.

Scott Rice: 00:29:42

But as it dies off, then they'll, they'll implement things and that'll be it.

Scott Rice: 00:29:47

That's it.

Scott Rice: 00:29:48

And that's exactly what I think will happen.

Scott Rice: 00:29:49

And it won't just be here.

Scott Rice: 00:29:51

It'll Be global.

Scott Rice: 00:29:53

And we're starting to see more global governance.

Scott Wright: 00:29:55

I mean, think about it.

Scott Wright: 00:29:56

Just think about, you know, the technology that's used to get the gospel out.

Speaker D: 00:29:59

Right now.

Scott Wright: 00:30:00

It's on television, radio, on the Internet.

Scott Wright: 00:30:02

Yes, Covet.

Scott Wright: 00:30:03

They've already proven Covid.

Scott Wright: 00:30:04

They can shut things down.

Scott Wright: 00:30:06

They'll just unplug you, you know, and they can also, with the cryptocurrency, the digital dollar and all that getting.

Scott Wright: 00:30:12

Right.

Scott Wright: 00:30:13

They shut up, shut off that faucet, shut off the technology faucet, you know, and now your revival overnight went to nothing.

Scott Wright: 00:30:24

Zero.

Scott Rice: 00:30:25

Matter of fact, if you, if you read in the book of Revelation about the two witnesses when they die, it says people are sending gifts to each other instantaneously.

Speaker D: 00:30:37

Yeah.

Speaker D: 00:30:38

Yeah.

Scott Rice: 00:30:38

Well, guess what?

Scott Rice: 00:30:40

We're finally in a day and age where we can do that, can't we?

Scott Rice: 00:30:43

Yeah, that's how it proves that's, that's one.

Scott Rice: 00:30:46

And there's many ways, but that's one way you can prove that that's how it hadn't happened yet.

Scott Rice: 00:30:52

Because that wouldn't have been something they could have done back.

Scott Rice: 00:30:56

Right, right.

Scott Rice: 00:30:57

70 A.D.

Scott Rice: 00:30:58

you couldn't do it then.

Scott Rice: 00:30:59

Now we can, I mean, do it with the flip of a phone.

Scott Rice: 00:31:02

I can send a gift card to somebody and I can do it instantaneously.

Scott Rice: 00:31:08

I can.

Speaker D: 00:31:08

Amen.

Scott Rice: 00:31:09

You know.

Scott Rice: 00:31:10

So it's what led you to put.

Scott Wright: 00:31:12

2038 at the end of your email.

Scott Rice: 00:31:14

Because that is the pattern of the last age, of the ending of the ages of the gentile.

Scott Rice: 00:31:20

And I'm saying gentile because I believe that there's going to be a gap in there somewhere before the seven year tribulation.

Scott Rice: 00:31:32

elieve that somewhere in that: 2000

Scott Rice: 00:31:35

I picked: 2038

Scott Rice: 00:31:41

of was in that range between: 2737

Scott Rice: 00:31:48

But it's going to be somewhere in there.

Scott Rice: 00:31:50

It may not be exactly: 2038

Scott Wright: 00:31:54

numbers out there, you know,: 2038

Scott Wright: 00:31:58

We'll just call it that.

Scott Wright: 00:32:00

rs for tribulation, you know,: 2031

Scott Wright: 00:32:07

You'd have a, a mini.

Scott Wright: 00:32:11

What's the word I'm looking for, Lord, A mini demonstration of what it looks like to upset the apple cart, I guess you could say.

Scott Wright: 00:32:19

And I think the election kind of proved the apple cart can Be upset fairly quickly.

Scott Rice: 00:32:24

Yeah.

Scott Rice: 00:32:25

You know, things can change.

Scott Wright: 00:32:27

Yeah.

Scott Wright: 00:32:28

And so we are just in the prelude to the prelude to the wrap up.

Scott Rice: 00:32:33

Hey, I, you know we're viewing the commercials right now.

Scott Rice: 00:32:38

Exactly.

Scott Rice: 00:32:38

People think you can't turn 340 million people quick, but oh yeah, look at what happened.

Speaker D: 00:32:45

Yeah.

Speaker D: 00:32:46

Yep.

Scott Rice: 00:32:46

I mean we saw it.

Scott Rice: 00:32:50

I mean we, we've already seen it.

Scott Rice: 00:32:52

And so there's so many examples of human beings following a pattern of people and it doesn't take long.

Scott Rice: 00:32:59

As long as you think it can happen within a couple of years just like this whole thing happened.

Scott Rice: 00:33:06

So it, it won't.

Scott Rice: 00:33:08

I believe it'll turn quickly.

Scott Rice: 00:33:09

Especially with the advent of technology and how we have it with social media and how fast we can get information out into how many people we can get it out out to so quickly.

Scott Rice: 00:33:20

Things, things can change rapidly.

Speaker D: 00:33:22

Amen.

Scott Rice: 00:33:23

It can change.

Scott Wright: 00:33:24

We get ready to wrap all this up.

Scott Wright: 00:33:26

I know we probably sparked several questions in people's minds.

Scott Wright: 00:33:30

Of course we have get in touch with you.

Speaker D: 00:33:32

Amen.

Scott Wright: 00:33:32

That's the whole purpose of this, folks.

Scott Rice: 00:33:34

Exactly.

Scott Rice: 00:33:35

And so 20 people get in touch with you.

Scott Rice: 00:33:38

I almost said: 2038

Scott Rice: 00:33:40

So GCC God centered concept.

Scott Rice: 00:33:46

2038 gmail.com send me an email.

Scott Rice: 00:33:49

And we're going to be, like I said, we're in the middle of putting it.

Scott Rice: 00:33:53

Producing a whole new show.

Scott Rice: 00:33:54

We're going to be putting it out there.

Scott Rice: 00:33:56

Here.

Scott Rice: 00:33:57

Our date right now was, we were hoping January but it's probably going to be into February 1st of March time we get it out there.

Scott Rice: 00:34:06

But we're going to be on YouTube and we're going to take this thing.

Scott Rice: 00:34:10

I will tell you that part of this show will be talking about this.

Scott Rice: 00:34:14

We're going to have at least once a week talking about end time subjects.

Scott Rice: 00:34:18

We're going to have interviews with other people and we're going to also be doing discipleship on that podcast and then we're also going to be doing daily devotionals.

Scott Rice: 00:34:28

So there's going to be a whole laundry list of stuff that we do that's going to carry out.

Scott Rice: 00:34:33

So we're, we're looking forward to getting it going.

Scott Rice: 00:34:37

We will get it launched and then what the goal is is by June to have everything fully implemented.

Speaker D: 00:34:43

There you go.

Scott Wright: 00:34:44

Amen, folks.

Scott Wright: 00:34:46

You heard it right.

Scott Wright: 00:34:48

I told you we needed to talk about this.

Scott Wright: 00:34:50

And Scott did a great job of explaining why that.

Scott Wright: 00:34:53

2038 to the end of his email.

Scott Wright: 00:34:55

That's good.

Scott Wright: 00:34:56

Remind everyone that day is rapidly approaching.

Scott Wright: 00:35:00

Praise God.

Scott Wright: 00:35:01

out on a limb here and saying: 2038

Scott Wright: 00:35:10

No, he's not saying that at all.

Scott Wright: 00:35:12

It just laying out some facts that point in that direction.

Scott Wright: 00:35:16

Now you got to pray about what it means to you.

Speaker D: 00:35:18

Amen.

Scott Wright: 00:35:19

But just reach out.

Scott Wright: 00:35:20

You got any questions?

Scott Wright: 00:35:21

Reach out to Scott.

Scott Wright: 00:35:22

All the contact information is down below in the show notes.

Scott Wright: 00:35:24

Scott, I can't wait to get to get this going back up again, brother.

Scott Wright: 00:35:28

We're all out of time for today.

Scott Wright: 00:35:29

I do appreciate your time.

Scott Rice: 00:35:31

You bet.

Scott Rice: 00:35:32

Hey, look forward to having another fruitful discussion the next time.

Scott Rice: 00:35:35

And hey, this one's been awesome.

Speaker D: 00:35:37

Amen.

Scott Rice: 00:35:37

Amen folks.

Scott Wright: 00:35:38

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