Episode 102
Stan Lee, God and the Devil – Joe Schimmel
Stan Lee, God and the Devil – Joe Schimmel
Today's interview look into a profound exploration of the intricate relationship between contemporary superhero narratives and their underlying spiritual implications.
You will learn that many revered comic book characters, celebrated as paragons of virtue, may inadvertently propagate a distorted understanding of divinity and morality, effectively redefining the traditional narratives of good versus evil.
Our guest today is Pastor Joe Schimmel, founder of "Good Fight Ministries," and he offers illuminating insights regarding the pervasive influence of occult philosophies within the realms of today's pop culture, particularly highlighting the contributions of iconic figures such as Stan Lee.
The discussion reveals how Hollywood has reshaped societal beliefs about God, Satan, and salvation, thereby necessitating a vigilant discernment from the audience.
Ultimately, we aim to equip listeners with the tools to critically engage with these cultural artifacts, fostering an awareness of the spiritual warfare that permeates the entertainment industry.
Takeaways:
- This episode of Revelation Warning addresses the significant influence of popular superheroes on contemporary beliefs about good and evil.
- We explore how comic book narratives often invert biblical truths, portraying false gods as heroes and promoting spiritual deception.
- Pastor Joe Schimmel reveals the troubling connections between prominent comic book creators and occult practices, emphasizing the need for discernment.
- The podcast underscores the importance of educating children about the spiritual messages embedded in modern entertainment media.
- Listeners are encouraged to critically engage with pop culture and understand its potential impact on their faith and worldview.
- The discussion highlights the necessity for parents to actively teach their children about discernment in the context of entertainment and media.
CONTACT INFORMATION:
Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_tHkr3WNoI
Website: https://marveldcexposed.com
Website: https://www.goodfight.org/
Transcript
Welcome to Revelation Warning, a weekly podcast hosted by Pastor Robert Thibodeau as he interviews prophecy experts from around the world as we discuss current events in relation to Bible prophecy.
Speaker A:All of this is to give the world a final Revelation Warning.
Speaker A:Now, here is your host with this week's guest, Pastor Robert Thibodeau.
Speaker B:Foreign hello, everyone everywhere.
Speaker B:Pastor Robert Thibodeau here.
Speaker B:Welcome to the Revelation Warning podcast.
Speaker B:We are so blessed that you're joining us here today.
Speaker B:What if I told you that some of the most beloved superheroes of all time, characters that millions of people look up to, are actually promoting a twisted hidden agenda that behind the colorful images and the black blockbuster films, there is a deliberate effort to rewrite God's role in the universe.
Speaker B:We all love a good hero story, good versus evil, and light overcoming darkness.
Speaker B:But what if the stories that are shaping our culture today are actually doing the opposite thing?
Speaker B:What if your favorite comic book characters are subtly reshaping what we believe about God, about Satan, and about salvation itself?
Speaker B:Today, Pastor Joe Schimmel is here to pull back the curtain and reveal what's hiding in plain sight.
Speaker B:And once you hear this, you will never look at superheroes the same way again.
Speaker B:Amen.
Speaker B:Pastor Joe Schimmel is a renowned Christian pastor, speaker, filmmaker dedicated to exposing the hidden spiritual agendas in pop culture.
Speaker B:As a founder of Good Fight Ministries, he has spent decades uncovering how music and movies and comics shape worldviews, often in ways that just basically distort biblical truth.
Speaker B:His groundbreaking documentaries include they Sold Their Souls for Rock and Roll, Marvel, and DC's War on God series.
Speaker B:And they've reached thousands audiences all across the world.
Speaker B:I mean, today he joins us in revealing some shocking insights into the spiritual deception lurking behind some of the biggest names in entertainment.
Speaker B:With that being said, help me.
Speaker B:Welcome to the program Pastor Joe Schill.
Speaker B:Pastor Joe, it's a blessing to have you back with us today.
Speaker B:I always look forward to catching up with you.
Speaker B:You stable in whenever we get a chance.
Speaker B:You guys are doing some great work out there.
Speaker C:Well, Pastor Bob, it's always a incredible joy for me to be on with you.
Speaker C:I love your infectious spirit for the truth and your love for Jesus and it's one of the reasons I love being on your show.
Speaker C:You love truth and.
Speaker C:And you have no fear.
Speaker C:I praise God for that.
Speaker C:Yeah, we're excited.
Speaker C:We just got done with our new video, Stan Lee God and the Devil.
Speaker C:And I mean, he made 60 cameo appearances, you know, and the Marvel movies and Marvel's the biggest movie franchise on earth.
Speaker C:So it's influencing not millions, but hundreds of millions of people.
Speaker C:So getting into Stan Lee and exposing what he's about was very, very important to us.
Speaker C:The second, this, the third installment in our series, and they're all eye popping, you know, in fact, the last one, we spent some time on Stan Lee and his character Dr.
Speaker C:Strange.
Speaker C:And Dr.
Speaker C:Strange has made his appearance on the silver screen more than once now.
Speaker C:And we show how Dr.
Speaker C:Strange was basically made in the image of Satanist Aleister Crowley.
Speaker C:And he talked about bringing the sorcerer back.
Speaker C:Dr.
Speaker C:Strange.
Speaker C:And he helped develop Doctor Strange.
Speaker C:That would be Stan Lee.
Speaker C:And we show conclusive evidence.
Speaker C:Even a gentleman named, well, Engelbert.
Speaker C:He was a.
Speaker C:One of the main workers on Stan Lee after he was developed by.
Speaker C:I'm sorry, one of the main workers on Dr.
Speaker C:Strange after he was developed by Stan Lee and Steve Ditko.
Speaker C:And he talks about how he learned the magic and he becomes a members of Crowley's oto and himself got involved in that Satanism and imported that into Dr.
Speaker C:Strange's character.
Speaker C:We even show with Dr.
Speaker C:Strange used to be called Dr.
Speaker C:Droom.
Speaker C:That was before Druid, you know, same kind of connections where he actually looks the same, know, as Alester Crowley.
Speaker C:Then they changed his look.
Speaker C:It's.
Speaker C:It's just mindboggling.
Speaker C:We show like 20 different parallels.
Speaker C:It's obvious, it's a slam dunk.
Speaker C:But this new movie, we.
Speaker C:We dive into Stanley himself.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker B:You know, many comic book writers, you know, including those Marvel and dc, they have acknowledged connections to mysticism and occult practices and like, alluded to as Alistair Crowley's teachings.
Speaker B:How does this connection run?
Speaker B:And what, you know, what evidences have you uncovered that suggest these creators are really just channeling more than just their creative inspirations?
Speaker C:Yeah, it's a great question.
Speaker C:You know, there's a popular, it's the most popular website promoting comics on the Internet.
Speaker C:It's called Comic Book Review.
Speaker C:And they have a poll done every four years for the top hundred writers.
Speaker C:And the last four years before this, last New Year, now we're talking about, you know, just over a year ago now, the top two guys were Alan Moore and then number two is Grant Morrison.
Speaker C:Then this, just before this New year vote was for the next four years and Alan Morris, Alan Moore was number one again and Grant Morrison is number two and this time Stan Lee's number three.
Speaker C:Well, I've just talked about Stan Lee and his promotion of Lester Crowley's magic and so forth through, you know, Doctor Strange and, you know, the Eye in The triangle was Dr.
Speaker C:Strange's deal with that came from Crowley.
Speaker C:All these different connections, it's crazy.
Speaker C:But you look at the top two guys, Alan Moore, number one.
Speaker C:I mean he's considered the Shakespeare of the graphic novel.
Speaker C:And we show where he is agnostic.
Speaker C:He talks about how he contacts demons, how he practices Crowley's magic.
Speaker C:He calls, he says he's in touch with the demon of cinema.
Speaker C:And he says as long as you treat them good, they'll treat you good.
Speaker C:He's learned to work with them.
Speaker C:And he channels a lot of the information from demonic entities.
Speaker C:And then number two is Grant Morrison.
Speaker C:And Grant Morrison, we have a clip in one of our videos where we show him coming on the stage and you know, a bunch of young people are just screaming their braces off.
Speaker C:And not just young people, all ages really.
Speaker C:And because he's considered just such an icon of the movement, he's the number two guy.
Speaker C:And he talks about how he couldn't write.
Speaker C:Alan Moore couldn't write really either until they got started practicing Crowley's magic.
Speaker C:The Bible says, the book of Revelation, that the judgments of God's wrath come upon people because they refuse to repent of their worship of demons and stuff.
Speaker C:We're seeing more of that in the end of days.
Speaker C:And he talks about how he encourages these young people.
Speaker C:There's a big giant, you know, he's big old, you know, he's speaking to this huge theater type thing and all these kids, young people there.
Speaker C:And a big screening back has a big picture of Satan, Celeste Crowley with 666 under it.
Speaker C:And he talks about, hey.
Speaker C:He says, hey man, get into Crowley by Crowley's books.
Speaker C:He encourages these young people.
Speaker C:So these guys are spreading, they're saying, hey, this is how I got.
Speaker C:He talked about this, how I got my ability.
Speaker C:So Satanism is spreading through the top writers that are advancing lot of their teachings toward young people.
Speaker C:In fact, one of his best friends who was a TV presenter for, in Great Britain for many years, he says of, of, of Grant Morrison, he goes, yeah, he, he shoots these Kenny coated bullets into the brains of kids and when they get in he goes, they blank and mess them up.
Speaker C:And, but he's saying this with glee.
Speaker C:So parents need to be aware that there we're not wrestling against flesh and blood.
Speaker C:There's a spiritual war and they're after our kids.
Speaker B:And you've provided us a couple clips that we want to listen to.
Speaker B:You know, go ahead and explain the first one.
Speaker B:What are we going to hear?
Speaker C:Yeah, we've got three clips from the new movie.
Speaker C:We do show some of the strange connection with.
Speaker C:With Stan Lee.
Speaker C:But the documentary starts off with him, you know, proclaiming he wanted to be God and so forth.
Speaker C:And then it's interesting because that plays into him diminishing of God, diminishing God himself and exalting comic book characters.
Speaker C:And basically he enters into biblical cosmology and considers God basically, you know, throw shade at God and exalts the devil in his work.
Speaker C:And the first clip that would be great to see is of his sidekick, guy by the name of Ditko.
Speaker C:And this gentleman we show in this clip where from his youth he.
Speaker C:A bunch of Hasidic rabbis were jumping around him trying to cast.
Speaker C:Because his parents called him, because they were seeing what they thought was demonic activity in demonic manifestations in his life through him being severely sick and who knows what exactly they saw.
Speaker C:And these guys were trying to cast this demon out of him.
Speaker C:And he talks about how that experience changed his life and that it's from that time, by the way, that all these different characters and all this ability began to flow through Kirby.
Speaker C:Now, it's interesting because we go from there to where he's asked to develop this character called Galactus by Stan Lee.
Speaker C:And Galactus becomes a picture of God.
Speaker C:And.
Speaker C:And there's a new movie coming out just around the bend by Marvel on Galactus, which will probably be pretty huge.
Speaker C:And Galactus is devourer of planets and.
Speaker C:And destructive and, you know, just narcissistic into just feeding himself, even though if it means destroying planets and killing millions of people.
Speaker C:And he says, and you'll see in this clip, you know, that he had to go to the Bible, you know, to develop his character and that he had to get away from because he realized he was dealing with God, you know, and then he goes on to see in this clip, but he also had to develop the Silver Surfer.
Speaker C:And the Silver Surfer is Galactus's emissary, you know, his herald, who goes to these different planets, like a kind of John the Baptist kind of guy to prepare them to be devoured.
Speaker C:Yet the sober Surfer has a change of heart.
Speaker C:He realizes Galactus is basically incredibly destructive.
Speaker C:And, you know, what he's doing is evil.
Speaker C:And he rebels against him to save humanity.
Speaker C:And he says, as we'll see in this clip, that that rep.
Speaker C:He was the fallen angel of the Bible.
Speaker C:The devil.
Speaker C:Yeah, he's the hero.
Speaker B:Anyway, let's roll a clip.
Speaker B:Wow.
Speaker B:Wow.
Speaker B:So this is talking about just warping the minds of.
Speaker B:And they start with a youth because what's going to have the youth are going to grow up and have their own kids.
Speaker B:You know, the.
Speaker B:Yeah, and so it just spreads and populates.
Speaker B:I mean, how.
Speaker B:How can we not see this?
Speaker B:You know, why is that so blinding to everyone?
Speaker B:Because, you know, they flock to these movies by the millions.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:It's amazing.
Speaker C:And, you know, later on, you know, they'll change his origin story, but make him norn rad and so forth.
Speaker C:That would be the Silver Surfer.
Speaker C:But his original origin story as a good guy was Devil.
Speaker C:And what's fascinating about this and Heart sickening at the same time is we show, you know, Stan Lee saying that the Silver Surfer was his philosophical mouthpiece, the one who represents Satan, the devil.
Speaker C:And so that sets us up really for the next clip, Bob, because in the next clip, we see a story that was written by Stan Lee himself, and it's called God Woke.
Speaker C:And what's interesting about this is that he turned this into a film.
Speaker C:This meant more to him than any other comic.
Speaker C:And because he's showing forth his philosophy.
Speaker C:And in this, you actually hear Stan Lee narrating the story of God Woke.
Speaker C:His voice back when he did this on stage before a bunch of people, one time they threw things at him because they realized it was blasphemous toward God.
Speaker C:Well, guess what?
Speaker C:People are at a place where they wouldn't throw anything nowadays.
Speaker C:They'll just mock God right along with you sometimes.
Speaker C:And so people see that he basically shows God as being indifferent because he believed in God.
Speaker C:So someone say, oh, he's an atheist.
Speaker C:We show here, and from an interview, we show that he had had, or we referred to with a guy that ate lunch with him all the time, a good friend.
Speaker C:He goes, oh, he believed in God.
Speaker C:He just believed that God was not perfect.
Speaker C:And here we show that God Woke.
Speaker C:God basically finds out that he's the reason for all the problems because he doesn't really care about humanity.
Speaker B:Let's run that clip.
Speaker B:So what kind of message do you think this is given to, you know, not just the young generation, but their parents that are taking them to see these movies and stuff?
Speaker C:Yeah, it's really popular in Hollywood today to have sitcoms, you know, movies where characters that are considered beloved, you know, hate God.
Speaker C:Or they say God, that God doesn't exist.
Speaker C:Or if there is a God, he's contemptible, he's evil.
Speaker C:You know, so.
Speaker C:And atheists, a lot of them, you know, like Dawkins and others will say, well, I don't believe in God and so forth, but they, it's kind of interesting.
Speaker C:They, they really hate someone they don't believe in.
Speaker C:So Bible says they're suppressing the knowledge of the truth.
Speaker C:So Stan Lee is communicating here, which is really interesting.
Speaker C:You know, the idea that God is contemptible.
Speaker C:He's really not the hero of the story.
Speaker C:He's definitely not even on par with the superheroes who care about humanity on some level, you know, and it's basically saying you can't find your hope in God.
Speaker C:You can't rely on him.
Speaker C:You need to rely on superheroes.
Speaker C:Or if you recognize that they're not really real, you can rely on, you know, our storytelling because we have, you know, encouraging stories and so forth.
Speaker C:But it leaves people, it's so seeds of hopelessness and despair in the human heart.
Speaker B:Yeah, well, you know, your series discusses, you know, the agnostic inversions basically that.
Speaker B:The idea that Hollywood and comic book narratives just reverse biblical truths, you know, making good seem evil, evil seem good.
Speaker B:How, how does this concept play out in the storylines?
Speaker B:But why, why should Christians be paying attention to what's being produced out in Hollywood like this?
Speaker C:Yeah, it's absolutely critical that we have a, you know, a biblical worldview because when we look at the scripture, we do see, you know, God reveals.
Speaker C:I mean, we see creation, we see God's power, we see the beauty reflected in the things he's made.
Speaker C:It's.
Speaker C:It's absolutely mind boggling how beautiful God created this universe.
Speaker C:And even in its fallen state where there's entropy and death has set in, you can still see the beauty all around us.
Speaker C:But the biblical worldview is that God created us with, you know, some form of free moral agency.
Speaker C:We have libertarian free will where we can make choices between good and evil.
Speaker C:And he created angelic entities with that same ability.
Speaker C:And many of them rebelled with God and, and that Satan deceived humanity through the serpent.
Speaker C:He can channel entities and so forth.
Speaker C:And what's interesting about this is that that whole story gets inverted in Gnosticism where God becomes evil, Yahweh the creator, and Satan becomes the liberator in the form of Sophia, who the Gnostics would teach.
Speaker C:And that was the greatest opponent of the early church in the latter part of the first and the second and the third century was Gnosticism.
Speaker C:Who many of the Gnostics, I think Valentinians and many others taught that the serpent was the good guy and that Satan or Sophia channeled the serpent to let Adam and Eve know that they had a spark of divinity within them from the ultimate death.
Speaker C:Who is really the true God, Not Yahweh, because Yahweh created you, but he entrapped you in the physical universe is evil.
Speaker C:And he had trapped you in this flesh.
Speaker C:And you got to be set free through the spark of divinity.
Speaker C:You know, that Sophia was communicating through the knowledge of the tree of knowledge, good and evil.
Speaker C:So everything got inverted.
Speaker C:Well, the crazy thing today is Satan.
Speaker C:Celeste Crowley would have the gnostic mass we've shown through.
Speaker C:They sold their souls for rock and roll.
Speaker C:Probably our most, definitely our most popular video through the years where he's influenced all these musicians, but he's also influenced so many of these comic writers as we're seeing, and many movie stars and directors and producers and so forth.
Speaker C:That same message is going forth.
Speaker C:So in this next clip were showing, this is called Parable.
Speaker C:And this was, you know, while the Silver Surfer was his favorite character, Parable, he said, was his favorite comic.
Speaker C:And in Parable, Stan Lee introduced, you know, the Silver Surfer is introduced into Parable as the hero again and everything's inverted.
Speaker C:And in this, the clip they're going to see, and I'll just summarize it so they just can follow more easily, is that, you know, there's a preacher, he's, he's, he's an evil guy, you know, but then there's Galactus who's going to destroy the world again.
Speaker C:And here comes Silver Surfer to save the day.
Speaker C:And without giving, you know, saying everything that's going to be, you know, coming up, just pay attention to this fact that the very end, he becomes the hero the United nations wants to work with him to be peace the world.
Speaker C:Sound familiar, Bob?
Speaker C:And then, yeah, Surfer talks about how we all have the spark of divinity within us, you know, so you don't really need Galactus and so forth.
Speaker B:All right, let's, let's roll the cliff.
Speaker B:So this is basically just follow right along with the book of revelation.
Speaker B:I mean, if you want to get down to it, right.
Speaker C:That'd be a great way to sum it up.
Speaker B:Amen.
Speaker B:So the God, it's just so, to me, it's mind boggling that the evidence is right there, you know.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:And, and yet it's like, oh, let's, let's just promote it, give it all these awards, draw more attention to it and you know, things like that.
Speaker B:With Marvel and DC stories so deeply ingrained in pop culture today, what practical steps can Christian parents take to protect their kids from this subtle but very dangerous spiritual messages in These comics and in the movies, you know, how can families engage with entertainment while maintaining some sort of form of discernment?
Speaker C:Yeah, that's the most important question, Bob.
Speaker C:And you have a way of putting your finger on it.
Speaker C:So important to, like, how do we deal this with our.
Speaker C:With our children?
Speaker C:Is.
Speaker C:And I can just speak from my own experience having a few children and.
Speaker C:And they're all adults now, and two of them have given us some grandchildren.
Speaker C:My son's yet to get married, he's the youngest.
Speaker C:But we brought.
Speaker C:And they all loved the Lord, and we brought them up in Christ.
Speaker C:And one thing I did, I didn't shield them from knowing the truth about these things.
Speaker C:I made them aware of what God's word says about good and evil.
Speaker C:The Bible says that the priests, they failed the people more than once.
Speaker C:It says it's in the Old Testament because they didn't make a distinction between that which was good and evil and evil.
Speaker C:And the Bible says those who are in milk, and that's so many Christian young people, they don't know how to discern between good and evil because they're still on milk and not on the meat that's in.
Speaker C:And they're still babes.
Speaker C:And the author of Hebrews is rebuking the audience, saying, you guys need to grow up and go beyond the elementary things and move on to maturity.
Speaker C:Because we don't want to be, as Paul says in Ephesians, chapter four, like children who are tossed to and fro by every wind of doctrine, by those who lie in wait to deceive.
Speaker C:So it's imperative that as Christians, we teach our children the scripture, that we take time out and spend time with them.
Speaker C:And now I know some of the parents, hearing me, they've got older children and maybe they did that.
Speaker C:And, you know, sometimes you can train your children up in the way they should go, and when they're older, they won't depart.
Speaker C:Typically, there's truths that are like absolute in Proverbs, and there's also truths that are general, where there's.
Speaker C:Sometimes people can rebel against.
Speaker C:You know, God is obviously Adam and Eve were brought up by the perfect parent and they rebelled against God, you know, but we train them up the way they should go.
Speaker C:But if they're older and they have our time communicating those truths to them, you know, our videos, I mean, we have a ton of clips that are free that people go to the Good Fight site, Good Fight Ministries on YouTube and show a lot of clips from these comic.
Speaker C:They could.
Speaker C:They can also get the Videos themselves that expose the truth to these children.
Speaker C:That's what I did with my.
Speaker C:My children is I let them know what was going on.
Speaker C:So the crazy thing is, my children, instead of.
Speaker C:Even though they weren't involved in all this stuff, you know, as they're growing up and they're very young, and I have to say, we thought the comic movies, all those are pretty safe.
Speaker C:So we let them watch some of them for a while.
Speaker C:And then when I started studying, I'm like, whoa, what is going on here?
Speaker C:You know, and my kids are older, so they make their own choices now, you know, but made them very aware, and they're all aware of what's going on in that genre.
Speaker C:But my point is, is that I would take my children from a young age and share with them the truth of what was going on and how the spiritual warfare and many of these artists in music or, you know, you know, and so forth with regard to comics and movies, are involved in darkness and the spirit world and being channeled at times and.
Speaker C:And that made them more aware than the cool kids or the people in the world that think they know it all and they're into all these different things and you got to be hippy.
Speaker C:They're not.
Speaker C:No, they saw above that.
Speaker C:And instead of in wonderment, like, why shouldn't I be involved in this?
Speaker C:They were aware because of this.
Speaker C:And I like that about.
Speaker C:In Proverbs, you know, Solomon, who's the wisest man in the world of his time, right, he instructs his child, his son, not to be involved in evil, but he paints these pictures of what's going on in the streets.
Speaker C:Don't run with people that shed blood.
Speaker C:And this is what happens with them.
Speaker C:You know, if you become a drunkard, this is what happens to you.
Speaker C:If you go after prostitutes and it gives pictures of what that looks like.
Speaker C:So I'm a strong advocate.
Speaker C:Satan uses pictures the opposite way.
Speaker C:Moving pictures, movies.
Speaker C:Here Jesus, he shows me the kings of the world in a moment's time.
Speaker C:Well, as Christians, we have something even more powerful than that.
Speaker C:We have the word of God, which is sharp, which is stored, and we got to use the armory and the weapons that God has given us.
Speaker C:So I'm a strong advocate of informing your children about this warfare and actually not just letting them say, hey, this is going on, but letting them know God wants to use you as a soldier in his kingdom to show forth the light of Christ in the midst of this darkness and not be involved in this junk that would take you away from God, but that you yourself would recognize that you are beyond any of these superheroes because they're not real.
Speaker C:And God wants to use you to snatch people out of the fire, and he wants to use you as one of his heroes by pointing to the open hero, Jesus Christ.
Speaker C:And by the way, share with your children.
Speaker C:These things are fictitious because people, man, I'm telling you, you've heard the discussions.
Speaker C:You're being elevated.
Speaker C:You hear, you know, grown men argued about which superhero is the greatest.
Speaker C:And I'm like, yeah, you know, do you guys even realize that these guys didn't really exist?
Speaker C:Not Spider man, not Batman, not Superman, not all these superheroes.
Speaker C:But, you know, they don't have a.
Speaker C:Jesus has the true origin story.
Speaker C:He's from Everlasting.
Speaker C:He's too Everlasting.
Speaker C:He was born in Bethlehem.
Speaker C:We are Western calendar calendars, you know, based on BC And AD all around his birth in the Western world.
Speaker C:And he lives.
Speaker C:And he's a king of kings and Lord lords.
Speaker C:And get them excited about Jesus.
Speaker C:Make sure they're in fellowship.
Speaker C:Make sure you're praying with them.
Speaker C:Make sure you're loving on them.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's.
Speaker B:What kind of feedback are you receiving from your latest installment on this series?
Speaker B:I'm sorry, what kind of feedback have we been receiving from your latest installment?
Speaker C:Oh, there's been a lot of excitement, and we thought because we weren't covering you, just recover Stan Lee.
Speaker C:So we thought after the first two, which hit really hard, people really appreciated.
Speaker C:I thought, because it's on Stan Lee, I wasn't sure how well it would do as far as reception.
Speaker C:I knew when people saw it, they'd be stunned because of what we've got there, you know, but because Stan Lee is the iconic figure of the marvel of Marvel Entertainment, and that's the biggest genre movie genre in the world now, it's been pretty stunning because it's moved like the first two, which is really good because people want to be aware.
Speaker C:And I can't tell you, man, how many people that we have that are involved in our ministry.
Speaker C:Many, because we expose, you know, first and foremost, we preach the gospel, but because of they sold their souls for rock and roll and Hollywood's war on God, these things.
Speaker C:But now so many people have become part of our ministry and are getting the truth out because they were so bound by a lot of the philosophies and the deceptions that they were being communicated to them and their families through.
Speaker C:Through a lot of these popular comic figures.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Amen.
Speaker B:Amen.
Speaker B:Well, Pastor, this has been so interesting.
Speaker B:The work that you and your team are doing is truly needful for sure in this day and time.
Speaker B:And I've got the link so folks can watch the trailers and the, the, the all this information.
Speaker B:It just watch the documentary itself, Praise God, as well as all the others.
Speaker B:But if anyone has any questions or they'd like to reach out to you, how can they do that?
Speaker B:What's the best way to get in touch with you?
Speaker C:Oh, they can simply go to a good fight.org and, you know, write into us there or ask, you know, go there and they can see all these things we make available or to Good fight ministries on YouTube.
Speaker C:They can see, you know, several shows that we do, a couple podcast, cast a weekend.
Speaker C:My I'm a preacher.
Speaker C:I'm a pastor, pastor church here in Simi Valley, California.
Speaker C:And I've been pastoring here for, well, it's the only church I've ever started since I was 26 years old.
Speaker C:And you can tell that's been a while because I'm looking more ancient now.
Speaker B:You know, you're at least 30, so at least.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:So we're right here.
Speaker C:Steamy Valley, California.
Speaker C:And, and so if people, you know, want to tune into it or they want to drive by and visit and the fellowship, they're not far away.
Speaker C:That'd be great, too.
Speaker B:Amen.
Speaker B:Well, folks, as you heard, Marvel and DC superheroes have captivated millions.
Speaker B:But what if there's more beneath the surface?
Speaker B:I mean, Stan Lee, God and the Devil, the latest installment in Marvel and DC's War on God series, uncovers how these stories just distort biblical truth, exalt false gods, subtly reframe Satan as a hero.
Speaker B:I mean, don't let pop culture shape your faith, folks.
Speaker B:Watch now.
Speaker B:Go to marveldcexposed.com Equip yourself with biblical discernment.
Speaker B:Praise God.
Speaker B:Hey, man, that link marveldcexposed.com and I'll have the links down below in the show notes as well.
Speaker B:Pastor Joe, it is always a blessing to have you come on the program and be able to reconnect with you and catch up on all the awesome work that you're doing.
Speaker B:I do appreciate your time, brother.
Speaker C:Well, praise God, Bob.
Speaker C:You're one of my favorite guys to interview with, bro because I just love your love for Jesus and the truth.
Speaker C:God bless you.
Speaker C:Thanks for having me on.
Speaker C:I count that a real blessing.
Speaker C:Appreciate it.
Speaker B:Folks, that is all the time we have for today for Pastor Joe Shima myself.
Speaker B:Is Pastor Bob reminding you to be blessed in all that you do.
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